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Growing up, there were two terms that I heard often on freezing cold nights; banking up the woodheater and nightstick. WTF is a nightstick? In my neck of the woods, we have two kinds of preferred nightstick wood. The next choice is Oak, any variety. I do use lighter pieces and some half green poplar on top of the nightsticks sometimes.

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I wish I knew more of the experiences of regular citizens. You can imagine what this place will look like 12 hours after any of the above listed scenarios. My mom was in the floods in Santa Clara UT a couple q weeks ago. She said when the emergency warning came ppl came running to their cars amazingly most with bug out bags on their backs including the dogs.

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If I had no family, I would consider you a coward as well. For with no higher duty, it is far past the time to rise and fight. You have already failed agl professed calling. The time to fight was years past. You wait to fight only when you have no choice, you fight an pointless and hopeless fight unto which you die for no reason, and you do it on their terms.

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I hope you read that part and remember it! I apologize for my inability to fully understand your whole comment as it drifts from your anger at the people in the US to other and I understand your anger.

I am angry also to which it sometimes seems there will be no end to it. It is getting late now and mostly the things I could get from your reply were somewhat what i had mentioned Camerota sexy porn my comment.

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Hey I wish you luck and maybe some day you might be able to look back on my comment and realize and understand what I meant. Hold Steady, Hold True until the end.

I am sorry for the confusion. I normally never post anywhere and when I get a bit of drink in me I tend to ramble when I do. Problem is, online is the only place I ever feel the freedom to actually say what it is I am thinking, so it tends to come spilling out in a jumble. I dare not say such words to those I know in real life, I have learned the hard way people are not to be trusted.

Yes, if you want to know, I am a vet. I try not to let it out much, I am young enough that my peers still assume it is a great adventure and I am willing to expose my stories for entertainment.

But I was almost to tears in shame, knowing they mean well, but they had NO idea what I was doing just days before, what I considered normal, how alien things felt coming back. The anger, frustration and almost palatable hatred I learned to feel for our media over there.

Knowing how our population eats up its lies and crap. Because of how we worship what a talking head says, I had to make a decision which to this day forces me to admit I am a coward. I decided to choose caring for my children and being there for them over doing what I know what right, what I would have done for a dog in the same position, but if I had, all this nation would have heard would have sent me to prison for doing the only thing any human SHOULD do.

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